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Greed1914
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The part about needing to kill something else with a blessing to improve yours does stick out. From what I could gather, it isn't just intelligent life that have blessings, so you could improve it by going hunting instead of fighting another person, but either of those making someone a better tailor, for example, kind of feels like video game logic where you gain EXP and the game happens to dump skill points into your job skill tree.
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earl.m
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Well, I admit: though I did enjoy it, Banished From The Hero's Party wasn't exactly Stein's Gate. But of the 2 shows that we have gotten about guys who decide that pharmacy entrepreneurship beats trying to kill the demon lord and save the world from murder and oppression then this is clearly the superior one, making Drugstore in Another World the lesser. If for no reason that Cheat Pharmacist DOES indulge in some of the lazy tropes that Banished avoids, such as the isekai'd corporate worker and "dense protagonist oblivious to harem" things.
I think that with a bigger budget, longer preproduction and production schedule and especially a predetermined plan to do at least two cours instead of one (instead of having to give one cour a satisfying conclusion while still leaving just enough of an opening for a sequel) this may have actually turned out OK. But things being what they were, it was "good enough." Not certain that I would refer to Red as a "wife guy" however. It means either: A. man who is shamelessly riding the coattails of his more successful wife B. man who talks about his wife constantly C. man who centers his entire identity around being married Red is ... none of those things? At all? Begin with that he never went around bragging about his cohabitation arrangement ... it was always brought up by others. He spent most of his life supporting his sister, and left when spoiler[he determined that his role was done and he was becoming a hindrance]. Even then, he was his own man with his own fame, accomplishments and capabilities all of which far exceeded Rit's. He had settled in to a nice existence off the grid in a small town occupied with his business and friends and would have been perfectly happy had Rit not ... tracked him down and inserted herself into his life without his permission. He is HAPPIER with Rit in his life, true, because he decided to return the romantic feelings of someone that he had a lot in common with. But he would have been more than fine, perfectly happy etc. without her and ultimately would have found a local half-elf or half-orc to take up with. Not wanting to be hokage, shaman king, pirate king, magic emperor, "the very best that ever was" etc. doesn't make you a "wife guy." Instead it is just that Banished from the Hero's Party is aimed at a somewhat older audience: one whose members are supposed to be thinking about the sort of people they want to be, careers and lives they want to have, the values and choices they will have to make etc. when they are adults. |
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Animegomaniac
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The bits of sci fi added at the end led me to believe the whole world was designed less by God but rather a petty and all too human dungeon master who didn't have much interest in fine details or free will.
Scenarios radiate outward from there though elves remain something of a question. Why does it seem to me like demons are completely artificial while elves are natural? Oh yeah, the number of arms, what was I thinking.... "Wife guy"... Red's the early promoted character from any Fire Emblem game that you give the weakest weapon to so that they tank every hit while the level one characters get each kill. Once that stopped being his role, Ares successfully mind games him out of the Hero's party. Red had no real plan after retiring but eventually he settled on making and selling potions which is just a different expression of his position in the Hero's Party, Support. It's not that I disagree with either the term or it being used but it's hard to see the term being used that way in RPG games. I don't know. |
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Minos_Kurumada
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The show did what it could with the time it had, a shame it didn't have more 24 episodes.
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Nate148
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Yep this feels like tales fans made it the world is very tales hell Zestiria world was made f'up by the gods
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YesNoMaybe
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I really like this show; Wish it could have had more time to develop the show's story as well as it's characters.
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Agent355
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Between Banished from the Hero’s Party, Taisho Otome Fairy Tale and (to a lesser extent) Irina the Vampire Cosmonaut, last season seemed chock full of shonen romances. I agree with earl.m that Red isn’t exactly a “wife guy,” or at least he didn’t start out that way. Rit was way more into him at first, and it took him a while to fully reciprocate her feelings, once he did it was full speed ahead and I wished we had gotten a wedding in the last episode instead of a funeral for the antagonist.
The rest of the story was good! The Blessing factor went overboard, but I enjoyed Ruti’s journey and I really, *really* appreciated that her relationship with her brother was wholesome and familial (the bar for brother-sister relationships in anime is in the sewer). I heard the light novels continue after the anime’s ending point. I’d totally watch another season |
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Penrhos
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After the previous seasons terrible trope filled drugstore - this was actually pretty good.
It was obvious it needed more budget and more episodes to do it justice but for once the Male protagonist actually took the hint that the girl was into him and did the deed.... No Harem, No dense MC, No emotional blockages, No blue-balling. They made it pretty obvious that they were having sex without showing loads of Ecchi fanservice or borderline Hentai. I wish they'd have squeezed in Rit & Red getting married to top it off.... Yes there were some pacing issues, the plot was basic, and they could have done so much more with blessings, leveling up and lore - but with only a single cour it was good enough. 7/10. |
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earl.m
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With Taisho Otome Fairytale, Banished from the Heroes' Party and Irina the Vampire Cosmonaut we had 3 shonen romance anime last season that: A. lacked a middle school or high school setting (including 2 with adult protagonists) B. mostly omitted the cheap, overused, problematic devices and tropes (or where they did exist, they were justified by the narrative i.e. Irina's tsundere nature) despite plenty of opportunities to do so And while the fourth shonen romcom, Komi Can't Communicate, did take place in a high school and had some usual tropes (vanilla protagonist, kuudere female lead, trap, yandere) - it integrated and handled all of them well (except for the yandere) it avoided most of the rest. Making Fall 2021 something of a high water mark for shonen romances. We can question whether the shows would have been more entertaining - and popular - had some of those tropes been included, especially if they had been well-executed. Making Roza romantically interested in Lev, for example, could have been taken into some fascinating places. And Taisho Otome Love Story's wholesomeness came at the expense of A TON of opportunities for potentially hilarious ecchi slapstick. But at the end of the day I am happy with the decisions that were made. And again, Red was not a wife guy at all. The problem here is that the norm is to call out any and every form of "toxic masculinity" in media, especially in cishet male characters that are meant to be heroic protagonists, to the point where I have seen critics bash guys as "entitled" for merely wanting a better job. Because the "toxic masculinity" discourse has been so pervasive - and those in the discourse have allowed it to define their view of males - then the ability to describe men that A. aren't the least bit toxic yet B. are still 100% masculine. Red isn't bisexual, gender-nonconforming or gender-fluid. Yet he isn't a "himbo" like Danan, unable to control his emotions like Ademi, ambitious to a fault like Albert, treacherous and possessive like Ares etc. With no other construct to use to define him, to the "I am a hammer so this HAS to be a nail" crowd he becomes a "wife guy" - another way to demean and dismiss him - instead of a good guy, role model and ideal modern hero. Anyone who mocks Red as a "wife guy" actually deserves a return to the Rumiko Takahashi style "always a jerk and often a pervert too" type male protagonists that dominated the 80s and 90s. |
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Agent355
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I agree on the shonen romances, although I'm very happy that Taisho Otome Fairytale was wholesome and Irina the Vampire Cosmonaut didn't have a love triangle.
I don't think the authors of This Week in Anime meant to evoke any negative connotations by describing Red as a "Wife Guy." Urban Dictionary defines "Wife Guy" as "A man who takes any opportunity to mention his wife in an admiring manner." There is nothing negative or derogatory about that at all. Any person in love might take any opportunity to mention their romantic partner in an admiring manner. Red prefers running a shop with Rit to adventuring with a guild, which, by shonen action story standards, makes him a more devoted romantic partner than MCs for whom becoming the Pirate King Hokage and/or defeating a Demon Lord is their primary goal. |
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Kadmos1
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Heck, the fact that they got intimate that early on in the light novels is quite progressive compared to the main couples in how ever other many anime, manga, and web/light novels. |
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